Member Login
Search
Jump to a Date
Sponsored Communities
Cool stuff
Twitter Feed
Neat Stuff

Visit our shop for nerds in control lifestyle products.
Thermal Overload
The threads that wouldn't die...
- PC reliability?
- Windows, real time
- PID loops
- PCs vs. PLCs
- Replacing people
- MS 'monopoly'?
- Software quality
- Where do we go from here?
- Why pay?
- PC reliability?
- Windows, real time
- PID loops
- PCs vs. PLCs
- Replacing people
- MS 'monopoly'?
- Software quality
- Where do we go from here?
- Why pay?
Fortune
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged
demo.
demo.
RSS Feed
www.control.com/rss/
To get a personalized feed, become a member at no cost.
from the None department...
application of advanced process control theories in real industrial plantsI have MS degree in control eng. My MS thesis was about distillation column control using "feedback linearization". i studied alot of papers on the application of advanced control theories in chemical processes. Now i'm working in research institute of petroleum industry in iran. the important fact is that even in a research institute, i'm confused about how to apply those theories in a real industrial plant, and how i can prepare these information in a well known engineering procedure.
I have a tale to tell in this respect. A fellow I once worked with did his masters thesis on fuzzy logic. His work included writing a PLC program (in RLL no less) that used fuzzy logic to control the motor speed on a textile machine. His thesis regarding this project was over two hundred pages long, and the code he wrote to impliment his fuzzy logic algorithm was several hundred rungs long. I understood from talking with him he spent many hundred hours just writing and testing the code. It worked OK, but it was nothing spectacular.
I spent a couple hours one afternoon in a factory in Virginia solving the same problem he solved. It took about 15 rungs of RLL and worked far better then his did. I pointed this out to him, and after looking at it he declared that the logic I had created was "cascade" logic, and his logic was "fuzzy" logic. I am not all that sure what the difference is, but I did get a big kick out of it.
Point being is that many of the techniques used in academia are uneconomic in any production environment. Now and then they turn out to be useful. Thats kind of what research is about, determing what is and what is not usable in the real world.
I spent a couple hours one afternoon in a factory in Virginia solving the same problem he solved. It took about 15 rungs of RLL and worked far better then his did. I pointed this out to him, and after looking at it he declared that the logic I had created was "cascade" logic, and his logic was "fuzzy" logic. I am not all that sure what the difference is, but I did get a big kick out of it.
Point being is that many of the techniques used in academia are uneconomic in any production environment. Now and then they turn out to be useful. Thats kind of what research is about, determing what is and what is not usable in the real world.
Your use of this site is subject to the terms and conditions set forth under Legal Notices and the Privacy Policy. Please read those terms and conditions carefully. Subject to the rights expressly reserved to others under Legal Notices, the content of this site and the compilation thereof is © 1999-2009 Nerds in Control, LLC. All rights reserved.
advertisements
Servo, stepping motor control, analog & web HMI in one system!
Control.com is the largest Automation community on the web. Learn how to advertise here now...
Find the right Modbus device for your project... or list your Modbus device on the largest online Modbus device directory.
Our Advertisers
Help keep our servers running...
Patronize our advertisers!
Patronize our advertisers!



