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Compressor Pressure Discharge intermittent fluctuations
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Posted by B.E on 23 November, 2007 - 11:22 am
On the <I> Mark V Speedtronic, we received the following intermittent Diagnostic alarm:

Droop Description
0282 IOMA CPD input hardware problem

Also we notice that, the Compressor Discharge Pressure (CPD) indication on <I> is fluctuating intermittently.
For the moment, the machine is still running and on the <I> we locked this alarm.

Can any one suggest, what is the reason for this alarm?

Posted by CSA on 28 November, 2007 - 12:05 am
From a very old <Q> Diagnostic Alarm "Help" file:

0282 ;IOMA CPD INPUT HARDWARE PROBLEM

CAUSE The CPD input does not pass internal diagnostic checks.

EFFECT Bad I/O data, particularly for the CPD input.

ACTION Try replacing the DCC/SDCC card.


Is the panel a SIMPLEX or a TMR panel? Which processor is this Diagnostic Alarm being generated for?

It's either an intermittent transmitter or transmitter wiring (easier to check/resolve and should be done *before* replacing the DCC/SDCC card) or it could be a cable problem (follow the signal using the Signal Flow Diagrams in Appendix D of the Mark V Application Manual, GEH-6195), it could be a card connector problem (corrosion, as has been reported several times on control.com).

Posted by B.E on 30 November, 2007 - 12:12 am
Thanks for your reply,

The panel is TMR. The diagnostic alarm is being generated intermittently for all processors R, S & T but, not at the same time, sometimes on R only, sometimes on S only and sometimes on T only.

Now, the machine is running, we will wait until the next Shut-Down to check the wirings, the transmitter and maybe to replace the card.

Posted by CSA on 1 December, 2007 - 10:48 am
Look at the Mark V Application Manual, GEH-6195, Appendix D, the page "<Q> Core - Compressor Discharge Pressure Inputs on TBQB" for details on the CPD input(s). A TMR Mark V requires three CPD inputs, and some turbines only have one, so the TBQB can be configured to "fan" one input to all three control processors. NOTE: If this is done, and the CPD transducer is a 4-20mA transducer, only *one* dropping resistor must be IN.

If the alarm is happening on all three processors, it's likely something that is common to all three processors--like a single transducer, or an intermittent connection in the circuit of a single transducer, or the TBQB card.

Or, corrosion on the cable connectors of the cables between the TBQB and the TCQCs, or the TCQCs to the DCCs/SDCCs.

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