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I have an application that has 4 in/2 out and has 65 locations along a linear path. Commonality is that the power system is the same, and the current
connectivity is buried in concrete and 30 yrs. old.
My thought was to put an i/o board of sorts at each location and network them using the existing power lines back to a PLC.
This is a distribution center so commercial grade 'boards' would work.
Does anyone have any thoughts or guidance?? Plenty of power line technology and RS-4222/485 I/O, but looking for an integrated solution.
Thx in advance!!
Cheers from: Jeremy Pollard, CET The Caring Canuckian!
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connectivity is buried in concrete and 30 yrs. old.
My thought was to put an i/o board of sorts at each location and network them using the existing power lines back to a PLC.
This is a distribution center so commercial grade 'boards' would work.
Does anyone have any thoughts or guidance?? Plenty of power line technology and RS-4222/485 I/O, but looking for an integrated solution.
Thx in advance!!
Cheers from: Jeremy Pollard, CET The Caring Canuckian!
www[.]tsuonline.com
Control Design www[.]controldesign.com
Manufacturing Automation www[.]automationmag.com
Jeremy,
Are you asking for a power line carrier system? Is there any possibility of adding a communication cable, twisted pair or Fiber optics?
Have you considered Spread Spectrum Wireless?
Roy
Are you asking for a power line carrier system? Is there any possibility of adding a communication cable, twisted pair or Fiber optics?
Have you considered Spread Spectrum Wireless?
Roy
Hey Roy - trying to interface with a legacy system that is 'in-floor' in concrete and conduit and is 40 years old. No option to disturb the exising wiring etc.. just use the 120 VAC wiring as a carrier for a network of sorts...
Kinda like a building automation system which uses the power system for control using a modulated signal.. Lonworks has chips etc that use this technology, but I haven’t found an 'product' as such.
Wireless cant be had due to location - thx for your feedback Roy!!
Cheers from: Jeremy Pollard, CET The Caring Canuckian! www[.]tsuonline.com
Control Design www[.]controldesign.com Manufacturing Automation www[.]automationmag.com
3 Red Pine Court, RR# 2 Shanty Bay, Ontario L0L 2L0 705.739.7155 Cell # 705.725.3579
Kinda like a building automation system which uses the power system for control using a modulated signal.. Lonworks has chips etc that use this technology, but I haven’t found an 'product' as such.
Wireless cant be had due to location - thx for your feedback Roy!!
Cheers from: Jeremy Pollard, CET The Caring Canuckian! www[.]tsuonline.com
Control Design www[.]controldesign.com Manufacturing Automation www[.]automationmag.com
3 Red Pine Court, RR# 2 Shanty Bay, Ontario L0L 2L0 705.739.7155 Cell # 705.725.3579
Jeremy -
The most commercially viable solution for this is Homplug, which carries Ethernet over 120VAC powerline. However, I don't think there are any industrial versions available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeplug
Here's an example of a commercial-grade bridge:
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetA dapters/XE103G.aspx
Paul...
The most commercially viable solution for this is Homplug, which carries Ethernet over 120VAC powerline. However, I don't think there are any industrial versions available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeplug
Here's an example of a commercial-grade bridge:
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetA dapters/XE103G.aspx
Paul...
Jeremy,
Perhaps this might be of interest
http://www.powercorp.com.au/pdf/bpl.pdf
I'm sure there are lots similar
Once you have TCP/IP then you could use Modbus or some other protocol that has cheap converters to TCP/IP
Interesting project
Good Luck
Roy
Perhaps this might be of interest
http://www.powercorp.com.au/pdf/bpl.pdf
I'm sure there are lots similar
Once you have TCP/IP then you could use Modbus or some other protocol that has cheap converters to TCP/IP
Interesting project
Good Luck
Roy
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