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Linear displacement sensor
Motion control, servos, steppers, etc. topic
Posted by Tim Wauters on 7 January, 2009 - 5:08 am
Hi everyone,

This is the first time I need to ask help on a forum. I'm not very proud that I can't fix this problem on my own.

The problem is that I need to find a sensor with the following capabilities and I can't find a good solution on the internet. That's why I hope I can get some help here.

The requirements are: (I'm from Belgium so everything is in millimeters)

- A linear measurement over 1000mm wide
- Accuracy of 0.001mm
- Good repeatability
- Stable, can handle some dust
- Local readout + send data to a Siemens S7-300 PLC

Does anyone know of a sensor that meets most of these requirements?
Thanks in advance.


Posted by Roy Matson on 8 January, 2009 - 1:36 am
Everyone needs help sometime.

The most accurate instrument I know is a Magnetorestrictive sensor with a magnet that slides along a stainless tube. They are very accurate and quite rugged. To get the best accuracy you should use one with a digital communication rather than a 4-20 mA. There are dozens of manufacturers, just search for Magnetorestrictive Sensor.

http://www.sensorsportal.com/HTML/DIGEST/may_06/Positio n_Sensor.htm

Hope this helps you.

Regards,
Roy


Posted by Carl Ellis on 8 January, 2009 - 7:36 pm
Two common spellings (you have to know both to search). I believe the absence of the "re" in the middle is the formal form, but both seem common.

magnetostrictive or
magnetorestrictive

Carl


Posted by M Griffin on 8 January, 2009 - 4:11 pm
For that accuracy over that distance, I would suggest looking at a Heidenhain linear encoder. They are very common on machine tools.

http://www.heidenhain.de

I believe you can interface them with a Siemens encoder input card if you use the correct interface box (the interface boxes are sold separately from the encoders).

You will need to talk a Heidenhain distributor as to what parts you need, as figuring it out from their catalog information isn't very easy.


Posted by Peter Nachtwey on 8 January, 2009 - 6:03 pm
The easy thing to use is the magnetostrictive sensor as mentioned above. You can get them with 1 micron resolution but they will not be accurate to within 1 micron.

I would NOT use analog!!!! A 16 bit analog to digital converter will not provide the desired resolution. Chances you have a count or two of noise anyway. I would use SSI as you require a range of about 1000000 counts.

The easy path is http://www.balluff.com or
http://www.mtssensors.com/products/index.html

If you really need the accuracy then look at glass scales but you need an SSI interface or encoder interface with a vary accurate homing routine.


Posted by James Ingraham on 8 January, 2009 - 11:02 pm
>A linear measurement over 1000mm wide
>Accuracy of 0.001mm

That kind of length with that kind of accuracy is a tall order.

Heidenhain can hit one micrometer, or rather +/- 0.5 um only at 270mm. The can do +/- 1 um at over a meter. That's an exposed linear encoder.

Sick Stegmann claims 1um at up to 16 meters(!) with their "Lincoder".

MTS Sensors can hit 1 um at up to 10 meters.

Others that have a solution that might apply, in no particular order: Renishaw, ASM Sensors, Balluf, Sony Manufacturing Systems Corporation, MicroE Systems, RSF Electronics.

There are probably many more.

>Good repeatability

Shouldn't be a problem with that level of accuracy, but you'll probably want to talk to the vendors.

>Stable, can handle some dust

I'd lean away from glass linear encoders, then.

>Local readout + send data to a Siemens S7-300 PLC

I think this won't be much of a problem.

-James Ingraham
Sage Automation, Inc.


Posted by Steve Rushing on 11 January, 2009 - 11:15 am
Hello, The heidenhain LIP 500 Exposed Linear Encoder offers between 70 and 1440mm of range, at an accuracy grade of +/- 1 Micron. Feel free to send a request for quote with your contact info to

steven.rushing@cdiweb.com
Thank you kindly. Steve


Posted by Leonid on 12 January, 2009 - 3:02 am
For such environment and resolution maybe suggested cheaper (vs. optical scale) magnetic linear encoder - for example, from Renishaw:
http://www.renishaw.com/en/9802.aspx

And standard AquadB output may be connected to Encoder unit of Siemens S7-300.

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