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Can anyone explain the relationship between Profibus DP/PA, Hart and ASI bus systems.
Also need to understand instead of using profibus PA. what is recommended so that I can measure 4-20ma output signal on the field?
Also need to understand instead of using profibus PA. what is recommended so that I can measure 4-20ma output signal on the field?
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There are some differences in the communication protocol capabilities, and therefore
- PROFIBUS-DP primarily used with variable speed drives and motor starters
- PROFIBUS-PA, HART, and FOUNDATION fieldbus primarily used with transmitters, analyzers, and valve positioners
- ASI primarily used with on/off switches and actuators
- HART digital communication is slow and is not used for closed loop control. Closed loop control is done using analog 4-20 mA
- FOUNDATION fieldbus is suitable for closed loop digital control using cyclic digital real-time data on a time-synchronized and scheduled, precisely periodic macrocycle
- ASI only communicates cyclic I/O, no acyclic diagnostics or setup
- PROFIBUS-DP/PA, HART, and FOUNDATION fieldbus support acyclic data for intelligent device setup and diagnostics
- PROFIBUS-DP/PA, HART, and FOUNDATION fieldbus support EDDL (www.eddl.org) for intelligent device management
- PROFIBUS-PA, HART, and FOUNDATION fieldbus are intrinsically safe and long distance, suitable for use in the process industries
- ASI is not intrinsically safe, and not long distance, but is very fast
See the guide on Institutionalizing Device Diagnostics here for a cross-reference table of protocols and devices:
http://www.eddl.org/DeviceManagement/Pages/DeviceDiagnostics.aspx
The principal beauty of PROFIBUS-PA and FOUNDATION fieldbus H1 is that you can do away with analog 4-20 mA and the associated drawbacks. Use either native PA or H1 devices, this way you eliminate 4-20 mA completely.
Or are you saying that you need some device not available in a PA or H1 version? What device is that? For Fieldbus you can see available devices here:
http://www.fieldbus.org/index.php?option=com_mtree&Itemid=324
If a native device is really not available, then use a converter device which has a PA or H1 connection, and 4-20 mA input/output as needed. See the Fieldbus Foundation website:
http://www.fieldbus.org/index.php?option=com_mtree&task=search& amp;Itemid=324&ffbstatus=Registered&ffbmfg=&ffbcategory=Conve rter+%28Transducer%29
Cheers,
Jonas
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- PROFIBUS-DP primarily used with variable speed drives and motor starters
- PROFIBUS-PA, HART, and FOUNDATION fieldbus primarily used with transmitters, analyzers, and valve positioners
- ASI primarily used with on/off switches and actuators
- HART digital communication is slow and is not used for closed loop control. Closed loop control is done using analog 4-20 mA
- FOUNDATION fieldbus is suitable for closed loop digital control using cyclic digital real-time data on a time-synchronized and scheduled, precisely periodic macrocycle
- ASI only communicates cyclic I/O, no acyclic diagnostics or setup
- PROFIBUS-DP/PA, HART, and FOUNDATION fieldbus support acyclic data for intelligent device setup and diagnostics
- PROFIBUS-DP/PA, HART, and FOUNDATION fieldbus support EDDL (www.eddl.org) for intelligent device management
- PROFIBUS-PA, HART, and FOUNDATION fieldbus are intrinsically safe and long distance, suitable for use in the process industries
- ASI is not intrinsically safe, and not long distance, but is very fast
See the guide on Institutionalizing Device Diagnostics here for a cross-reference table of protocols and devices:
http://www.eddl.org/DeviceManagement/Pages/DeviceDiagnostics.aspx
The principal beauty of PROFIBUS-PA and FOUNDATION fieldbus H1 is that you can do away with analog 4-20 mA and the associated drawbacks. Use either native PA or H1 devices, this way you eliminate 4-20 mA completely.
Or are you saying that you need some device not available in a PA or H1 version? What device is that? For Fieldbus you can see available devices here:
http://www.fieldbus.org/index.php?option=com_mtree&Itemid=324
If a native device is really not available, then use a converter device which has a PA or H1 connection, and 4-20 mA input/output as needed. See the Fieldbus Foundation website:
http://www.fieldbus.org/index.php?option=com_mtree&task=search& amp;Itemid=324&ffbstatus=Registered&ffbmfg=&ffbcategory=Conve rter+%28Transducer%29
Cheers,
Jonas
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